Frigidaire
Owned by Electrolux

Built-in Defects and Lack of Customer Service

Updated 7/18/08

 

My gas range died so I checked in Consumer Reports to find a range that would last me a lot of years.

I ended up buying a Frigidaire gas range model FGF368GSC.  It wasn't at the top of the Consumer Reports list, but was near the top.  I got the white porcelain range and liked the way the gray grates on the top looked with the white.  Little did I know the grates had a manufacturing defect built right in that Frigidaire knew about and that they chose to ignore.

Within two weeks of picking up the range I discovered that the grates were leaving rust marks on my white cooktop. I had already discovered that the white cooktop was unusually difficult to clean.  Whenever something would drip near the burner, the heat would bake it onto the cooktop.  I had to buy some of that cleaner for those smooth electric cooktops to get it up.  Frigidaire's manual actually said to use soap-filled scrubbing pads to clean the top.  Would that mean to use SOS pads??  I would never use those because they would scratch the surface!

I contacted the service department of Sears, the store where I bought the range.  They were surprised to hear that a brand new stove has a rust problem.  They said they would send me four new grates.  They only sent one and the range took four.  I took that grate out of the box and did an experiment on it.  I ran water over it and set it on a paper towel.  After it had dried there was rust on the paper towel!

I looked on Frigidaire's website and found this in their FAQ's:

 5. My range has cast iron burner grates; I have noticed rust is starting to form on the bottom.

* The bottom surfaces on cast iron grates are often unfinished to allow the gases that are present in iron to escape during the manufacturing process.
To minimize rusting, do not allow grates to stand in water for long periods of time. After washing, dry them thoroughly to prevent rust oxidation from forming. You may also coat the bottom surfaces with a vegetable oil, or a non-stick cooking spray, but remember to wipe off excessive oil before placing on range. There may be a slight amount of smoke from any extra vegetable oil residue left on the grate when the burner is first used again.

I proved that statement to be wrong.  I went back to Sears and looked at other brands of ranges and found others had grates that were completely coated and smooth on the top and bottoms.  I also contacted more than one company that actually coated cast iron and they told me the grates could be completely coated.

I called the service department of Frigidaire and asked for a solution from them. The woman I spoke with researched it and gave me their only solution: "coat the grates in cooking oil and bake them at 450° for 30 minutes EVERY time you wash them".  She sent me four more of the defective grates which did me no good.

I, again, went back to Sears and spoke with a salesman.  I ended up getting all their salesmen gathered around as they were flabbergasted to hear of a product with a built-in rusting problem.  One of them tried her best to help me.  I found another range that had completely-coated grates that were the same size as my rusting ones.  She called their service department to see if they could send me four of those instead of four Frigidaire ones.  We got to the top person in the service department and they explained that they would end up paying the cost because they wouldn't be able to get Frigidaire to pay them back.

You'll love this.... the price of replacement grates (four to a stove) is $59.00 EACH!  To replace them myself I would pay close to half of what the actual range cost me in the first place! 

I went home and sent an email to the main Frigidaire office in Georgia and asked for the name of the head of the company so I could go right to the top for a resolution.  I also sent an email to Electrolux, the parent company (I believe they are based in Sweden) asking for the name of the head person there.

I never received a response from Frigidaire in spite of multiple requests.  I received a few responses from Electrolux.  One told me to call a certified repair place.  I wrote back and said I already had and all I wanted was a name.  The last email I got from them said, "We are unable to provide that information."  Yep, UNABLE to provide me with the name of the head person.

I would like to take a moment to explain about Electrolux.  The Electrolux I was dealing with isn't the manufacturer of the reputable Electrolux vacuums that have been around since 1924.  According to a repair specialist that I took my vacuum to, a number of years ago there was a family split and the reputable Electrolux is now going under the name of Aerus Electrolux.  The Electrolux I was dealing with regarding my range makes an Electrolux vacuum that you can buy in the stores that are actually Eureka's.  Aerus doesn't sell in regular stores.  So, if you want to buy an Electrolux vacuum that is the brand that your grandmother had, get one from Aerus.  Don't buy the red ones that you see in stores.

The Frigidaire manual that came with the rusting range had two very odd things in it:
1. It said the grates were dishwasher safe!
2. It excluded rust in the warranty. (Hmmmm…. I wonder why!)

The salesmen at Sears are going to be telling people interested in the Frigidaire model all about the rust and lack of customer service at the corporate level of Frigidaire.  I notified the corporate headquarters of Sears and suggested they not sell a product that would make them look bad.

Sears ended up taking back the Frigidaire range within my 90 day return time and waived the restocking fee.  I bought a Kenmore range Model 790.71362 instead and, as I am writing this less than a month later, I am perfectly happy with that one.  Oh, I did get the five year extended warranty.  If they grates cost so much, what do the other parts cost?
 

 

ANOTHER FRIGIDAIRE RANGE GONE BAD:

I got an email from someone who had a very dangerous situation with her Frigidaire range.  Fortunately she was in the kitchen when her range went berserk.  Here is what happened to Darcie Kuzik.

Darcie purchased her electric Frigidaire range from Lowes about five years ago. On this particular day she was baking lunch for her children.  She put something in the oven that was to bake for around twelve minutes.  After about four minutes she smelled something burning.

Darcie opened the oven door to find out what was burning and a blast of extreme heat hit her and the meal she had been baking looked grilled.

She turned off the oven on the control panel but the heating element in the oven stayed on.  Then "F1" appeared  on the display on the control panel.  Without finding her manual and looking it up, Darcie had no idea what F1 meant.

The smell from the oven told her that the wires and such inside the oven were smoldering and melting.  She could see the wires sparking.  Not wanting to have the range burst into flames she unplugged it.  Since the outside of the range had gotten extremely hot she grabbed her oven mitts and dragged the range outside using the handle on the oven door and the cord.

After things settled down Darcie found her owner's manual and looked up "F1".  Amazingly enough it means:
Runaway Oven Condition!!

The manual said that condition could cause permanent damage making the oven useless due to excessive heating!!  They knew there was a built-in problem of massive overheating and decided to add "F1" to the display instead of installing an automatic shut-off!!  That's INSANE!

It turned out that, without warning, Darcie'soven had gone from a normal bake mode to self clean mode in four minutes while she was preparing lunch for her children.

 The wires inside were sparking, and could have caught my entire house on fire. The great part is that I read in the manuel after getting it out of the house that F1 means "Runaway oven condition", and it can cause permanent damage making the oven useless due to the excessive heating. That means this company knew that this could happen! And yet they still sold the product without placing a safety device to force it to turn off like a fuse!!! My entire house could be gone now, and they knew this could happen! What a company.

 

 

SOMETHING I FOUND
at Part Select Repair Forum

Frigidaire defective stove burner – lawsuit
Brand: Frigidaire
Model Number: LEEFM389FEB
Age: 1 - 4 years
Hello everyone. I just found this website and wanted to post, share and exchange
information because I will be filing a lawsuit within the next week against Frigidaire. I found this site after searching the web for similar complaints about Frigidaire’s stove. I read the post “Electric burner will not turn off – safety problem with Frigidaire PLEF398C series” that someone posted on Feb. 15, 2008. So I hope that the people that participated in that post are still around and reading up on this issue.

My stove is the Frigidaire Element 30” electric range. I purchased it in November of 2006. A few months ago, the stove turned on by itself, thinking possibly I may have bumped it, I thought nothing more about it. Until a few weeks ago, I had turned the oven on to heat it up to bake some chicken. Not long after that the back left burner turned on by itself -- but the control light indicator said it was in the “off” position!

I called for my daughter to come look because I knew no one would believe me. We just looked at each other in amazement. Shortly thereafter the buzzer rang (for the temp for the chicken); and then the buzzer kept beeping, and the control knob indicator light kept going on and off, after about 30 seconds, the indicator shut off. The stove then resumed to normal. But when the stove came on we were unable to turn it off with the knob. We actually had to wait until it turned off itself.

I contacted Lowes and they had me call their repair service representative. The repair service dept. told me that they would cover the cost of the repair as well as the labor. Only thing I would be responsible for would be the diagnosis of the problem. He told me it would run approx. $60.00. to diagnose.

After the repairman inspected my stove, he told me the following: (1) he had repaired dozens of these stoves for the same problem; (2) he said the problem was due to oven venting moisture into the control panel area and causing it to malfunction in this fashion; (3) the fix was to replace the control switch or units; (4) and there was no guarantee that it wouldn’t happen again because of the design defect, i.e. the oven venting moisture into the control panel area. I asked if the stove had been recalled and he said no, as long as there was no fire or injury reported, they didn't have to recall them.

I then contacted Frigidaire about replacing the defective stove and they asked me to send them the repair bill. Frigidaire then contacted me and offered a 50% rebate if I purchased another stove of equal or lesser value. I rejected their offer and will be filing suit because I feel that the defect could resurface at anytime and potentially cause a fire and/or serious injury. Anyway, if anyone has anything to add or would like more information, let me know. I will keep you posted with the results once the suit is filed. For those of you wanting to know where I reside, I live in Pennsylvania.

 

Are You a Victim, Too?

 

Here are places I filed complaints against Frigidaire and Electrolux

Better Business Bureau
Federal Trade Commission
Consumeraffairs.com
Contact the store where you bought it to let them know they are selling a faulty product
Suggestions:  Document all phone calls and conversations.  Write down names, dates, and times.  Keep track of everything. 
 

After you click on the above link replace the ! with @
before sending your email

 

 

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